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Postby Priscian on Thu 2006-02-16, 11:22

Etruscan really is …

Simply stated, I do not what Etruscan’s affiliation, as far as language, is; and, also I am without any solid clue as to its decipherment. For the last twenty years I have had an unwavering interest in Etruscan and its riddle. Many proposals have been suggested, from the plausible to the improbable. The theories are almost as intriguing as the mystery of the Etruscan language.

From the ongoing studies, it seems (personal opinion) that Etruscan may have some affinity with the Indo-European languages. The Etruscans most likely were an autochthonous people inhabiting contemporary Tuscany and some areas in the Po Rivers valley. Their civilization fell under Roman hegemony by circa 200 BC when the Etruscan speaking populace came under Roman control in toto. The language probably continued for several hundred years as a spoken language among the general population, in Etruria; while at a later stage it appears to have functioned as some sort of priestly language among the Haruspicini who employed as late the fifth century.

There thousands of inscriptions, most very short, with a few existing longer ones. The material is too scant to ‘reconstruct’ a comprehensive outline of the language; although, the phonology has been delineated (?). The Etruscans used various variations of the Chalicidian (Greek) alphabet.

My hypothesis is that maybe the Etruscan solution lies closer to Rome, since Latium, was inhabited by numerous language groups, Italic, Hellenic, and Etruscan. Maybe Latin itself owes a greater debt to Etruscan in its development due to its contact to this advanced culture. Perhaps there is a much larger substratum of Etruscan glosses embedded in Latin, e.g. the non Italic words lacking affinity that are unattested in Etruscan inscriptions, which could be Etruscan in origin. This does not necessarily make the language Indo-European, but the Etruscans long association with Italic peoples invariably worked in both directions.

Maybe all roads lead to Rome (no pun intended).
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Postby Sander on Thu 2006-02-16, 15:18

I heard something about it being related to Iberian... :?
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Postby Dminor on Thu 2006-02-16, 21:32

I heard something about it being related to Mesopotamian languages... :?
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Postby allemaalmeezinge on Thu 2006-02-16, 21:49

I heard something about it having had an short passionate affair with Robie Williams :shock:
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Postby Sander on Thu 2006-02-16, 21:51

yabba wrote:I heard something about it having had an short passionate affair with Robie Williams :shock:


:? Stupid Germans ...
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Postby Dminor on Thu 2006-02-16, 21:54

:lol:
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Postby Vinaok on Thu 2006-02-16, 21:59

I heard something about it having had an short passionate affair with Robie Williams


Lol :D Smart Germans

Anyway I have always been used to heard it as a compound language mixing mesopotamian languages but some linguistics dared to claim its closeness to further eastern asian languages....
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Postby Priscian on Sat 2006-02-25, 3:19

A. Etruscan words have come into English via Latin, e.g. person <- persona <- phersu; and perhaps family <- familia; people <- populus; and, tavern <- taverna.

B. It is also possible that the Etruscan alphabet influenced the Runic (letters). The Germanic tribes (Scandinavians) may have seen Etruscan sacerdotes, who were employed by Roman troops (?) use letters for divination (personal opinion).

C. Leading Roman families may have cultivated a knowledge of Etruscan, Varro and Claudius knew the language (on some level).

D. There was a language used on the island of Lemnos in the Aegean which appears(?) to have been a kindred language to Etruscan. The inscriptions are too short to form a definite affiliation. Also, Rhaetian inscriptions and topographic names show some similarities.

E. Oscan and Umbrian, may also have been influenced by Etruscan (and vice versa) but again the available materials are sparse.
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Postby Mornaran on Tue 2006-02-28, 11:53

Sander wrote:I heard something about it being related to Iberian... :?


Hey, that would be nice :D
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Postby Priscian on Wed 2006-03-01, 7:58

An interesting hypothesis about Iberian languages in connection with Etruscan is Nikolay Yakovlevich Marr's "Japhetic theory." Today, Marr's postulations are generally discredited because of his political overtones.
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Postby Strigo on Wed 2006-03-01, 13:37

I'd heard that Basque had some conection to Iberian.
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Postby nJohn West-Hungary on Thu 2006-03-02, 21:10

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Postby Stan on Thu 2006-03-02, 22:32



Etruscan is Hungarian! :wink:
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Postby Amikeco on Thu 2006-03-02, 22:50

I knew that before opening the links because of the poster. :roll:
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Postby Stan on Thu 2006-03-02, 23:18

Amikeco wrote:I knew that before opening the links because of the poster. :roll:


Hungarian is also the divine language and the language of extraterrestrials! :lol:
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