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Slovenski Kotiček (Slovenian Corner)

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Postby Fenek on 2003-09-12, 10:26

To je kotiček za tiste, ki se učijo slovenščino.
Žal še ni "učitelja" - Slovenca, ki bi popravljal napake :(
Jaz malo govorim slovensko. Učim se slovenščino eno leto.
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Postby Fenek on 2003-09-12, 10:35

This is the corner for those who learn Slovene.
Unfortunately, there's no "teacher" (Slovenian who'd correct mistakes) yet :(
I can speak Slovene a little. I've been learning Slovene for a year.
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Postby E}{pugnator on 2003-09-12, 12:55

Dober dan, Fenek!

Thanks for creating this Slovene corner! I'd be glad to participate! I'll invite Car and some other members who were interested as well...Hope we can have nice discussions here! I'll try and find some links for learning Slovenian later!
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Postby Car on 2003-09-12, 20:42

Great!

I already wanted to ask Expug again about the Slovenian books, but now I can ask everyone who's interested here. Any books to learn the language that are good? Any dictionaries?
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Postby E}{pugnator on 2003-09-13, 12:26

Car: Try the traditional Teach Yourself and Coloquial...they're written by the same author...Oh, and at these books the language is called Slovene, so it's Teach Yourself Slovene and Colloquial Slovene.

Fenek, does Slovenian has the phonem written in Russian with the letter bI? Is it spelt "ij"?

I've noticed that Slovenian does use the verb to be in the present...
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Postby Daniel on 2003-09-13, 13:38

E}{pugnator wrote:Car: Try the traditional Teach Yourself and Coloquial...they're written by the same author...Oh, and at these books the language is called Slovene, so it's Teach Yourself Slovene and Colloquial Slovene.


I have Colloquial Slovene, I bought it ages ago but I've only been learning it for about a few months on and off.

E}{pugnator wrote:I've noticed that Slovenian does use the verb to be in the present...


Indeed, here is the list of the present tense of the Slovene verb 'to be':

jaz sem - I am
ti si - you are
on/ona/ono je - he/she/it is
mi smo - we are
vi ste - you are
oni so - they are

and here is even the negative equivalent:

jaz nisem
ti nisi
on/ona/ono ni
mi nismo
vi niste
oni niso

8)

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Oh, by the way, I have a friend whom I've known for 3 years and he is a native Slovenian speaker and lives in Slovenia. Maybe I could ask him to join the UniLang?
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Postby Fenek on 2003-09-14, 7:47

Car wrote:I already wanted to ask Expug again about the Slovenian books, but now I can ask everyone who's interested here. Any books to learn the language that are good? Any dictionaries?


I'm afraid I can't help you much with this matter. I caught a glimpse of an array of Slovenian books for learning Slovene, but I didn't get to know them well enough to evaluate them. The book I use is quite good, but I don't have its cover, hence I don't know its authors.
I think a German-Slovene dictionary would be the most convenient for you. I'm sure you could easily find a lot of German-Slovene dictionaries in Slovenia. I don't know about their availability in Germany.
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Postby Fenek on 2003-09-14, 7:57

E}{pugnator wrote:Fenek, does Slovenian has the phonem written in Russian with the letter bI? Is it spelt "ij"?


No, there's no phoneme "bI".
"ij" is pronounced either as [j], that is to say, as non-syllabic [i] (when unstressed), or as [ij] (when stressed)

E}{pugnator wrote:I've noticed that Slovenian does use the verb to be in the present...


As do all Western and South Slavic languages.
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Postby Fenek on 2003-09-14, 8:30

Daniel wrote:Indeed, here is the list of the present tense of the Slovene verb 'to be':


The list is correct, but incomplete, because there are three numbers in Slovene: singular, dual and plural. Let me add dual forms.

jaz sem - I am
ti si - you are
on/ona/ono je - he/she is
midva/medve sva - we-two are
vidva/vedve sta - you-two are
onadva/onidve/onedve sta - they-two are
mi/me smo - we are
vi/ve ste - you are
oni/one/ona so - they are

jaz nisem
ti nisi
on ni
midva nisva
vidva nista
onadva nista
mi nismo
vi niste
oni niso
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Postby Daniel on 2003-09-14, 12:58

Fenek, that is right! I always forget the little but important things!!

Well, to start off the most useful phrases in Slovene, here is the list of the Slovene greetings:

Zdravo - Hello
Živio - Hello
Dobro jutro - Good morning
Dober dan - Good day
Dober večer - Good evening
Lahko noč - Good night
Adijo - Goodbye
Na svidenje - Goodbye

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Postby Fenek on 2003-09-15, 11:34

A few facts about Slovene:
Slovene is spoken by about 2 million people (1.8 million in Slovenia, 100 thousand in Italy, 40 thousand in Austria).
There are many dialects of Slovene, and they are quite different from each other. Of course, there is also literary language, Standard Slovene.
Slovene is classified as belonging to the South Branch of the Slavic languages, but it shares many characteristics of the Western Slavic languages.
The closest to Slovene are Serbocroatian and Slovak.
For centuries Slovene was under the strong influence of German and this influence is clearly visible in the vocabulary.

Slovene has the smallest number of consonants of all the Slavic languages (22). In comparison with other Slavic languages, there are few palatalized consonants. Many Slovene dialects have melodic stress (similar to the Serbocroatian melodic stress), but Standard Slovene has not.
In Slovene there are 2 aspects (perfective and imperfective, as in all Slavic languages), 3 tenses, 6 cases. A specific trait of Slovene is that it has preserved the dual number, so there are three grammatical numbers: singular, dual and plural.
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Postby Daniel on 2003-09-15, 12:02

Don't forget the three genders that Slovene possesses! Masculine, feminine and neuter! :lol: :wink:
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Postby Fenek on 2003-09-15, 12:31

Daniel wrote:Don't forget the three genders that Slovene possesses! Masculine, feminine and neuter! :lol: :wink:


Right, this is worth mentioning too :)
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Postby Car on 2003-09-15, 12:35

Fenek wrote:I think a German-Slovene dictionary would be the most convenient for you. I'm sure you could easily find a lot of German-Slovene dictionaries in Slovenia, I don't know what about their availability in Germany.


I already looked and it seems that neither in Germany nor in Austria, many dictionaries are available. Just a few and I know one of them will definitely not be sufficient enough (too small).
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Postby E}{pugnator on 2003-09-15, 12:40

Daniel, do invite your Slovenian friend to Unilang!
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